‘Logicians in my field consider themselves above mathematicians,’ jokes Bahareh Afshari. She is a logician, who started her MacGillavry Fellowship at the Institute for Logic, Language and Computation in the beginning of 2019. ‘Not to sound arrogant, but logicians have a God-like view over what is going on in maths. They analyse how mathematicians work, how they reflect on things, and establish new theorems.’